this controversy in washington, as well as hurricane sandy. there was some pretty big-waits on the economy, and yet is still continued -- weight on the economy, and yet it still continued dto churto churn ahea. every month, we have traded on average 153,000 jobs. -- created on average 153,000 jobs. host: in a country with well over 3 million americans, they're more than 12,000,002 are currently out of work. almost 5 million long-term unemployed. the discouraged worker, about 1.1 million. guest: it is good that the economy kept churning along, but it is bad the we have such a lousy economy. we believe to create something like 350,000 -- we need to create something like 350,000 jobs to get unemployment down to 6%. we're falling short every single month. it is a recovery. we were in such a deep hole that it has been really difficult to dig out of this whole. -- hole. if you're looking and reasons for optimism, you can look at this and say, good. if you're one of those 12 million people who does not have a job, this is a disappointing report because it is not stronger. it is not enough to start to job
